How do you guys or other pure clans feel about this?

[Ken]

I think it is all about how much damage you can do at the lowest combat possible. Before people would make pure so that they could kill mains, but now it is all pures v. pures and mains v. mains. That is where 45 def came from, it has lower defense so that it can pk against mains and kill them with superior stats. People started getting 20 defense for their clan and for the little bonus it gives, if clans start to accept 30 defense then people will get it to benefit the clan.

I personally do not believe that it should be allowed or contemplated, but people can do whatever they want.

[Idiot_Wasabi]

I dont think foe will accept 30 def anytime soon.

[yamaha]

I think it is all about how much damage you can do at the lowest combat possible. Before people would make pure so that they could kill mains, but now it is all pures v. pures and mains v. mains. That is where 45 def came from, it has lower defense so that it can pk against mains and kill them with superior stats. People started getting 20 defense for their clan and for the little bonus it gives, if clans start to accept 30 defense then people will get it to benefit the clan.

I personally do not believe that it should be allowed or contemplated, but people can do whatever they want.

I was only mentioning 30def(with turmoil) which would be the only real reason to have defence above 28.

I dont think people will start getting 30def just because either clan allows it or the "benefit", im only saying a person that has turmoil and 30def. There wont be many people who can afford turmoil, that are low cb so i guess it wont be enough for a pure clan to even give it a thought of accepting 30def WITH TURMOIL into a clan, unless jagex keeps having double xp weekends like they are planning but allow altars to be used lol.

And to the TLP bro statement guy this thread wasnt created to bash another clan or etc so lets not turn a thread that was actually having a good discussion going on into a spam thread.

30defence is not "pure" so i know it cant be expected to be allowed into a "pure" clan. But would clans start accepting 30defence and turmoil as alliance members to the clan, or some type of submembership like that?

[Ken]

I was only mentioning 30def(with turmoil) which would be the only real reason to have defence above 28.

I dont think people will start getting 30def just because either clan allows it or the "benefit", im only saying a person that has turmoil and 30def. There wont be many people who can afford turmoil, that are low cb so i guess it wont be enough for a pure clan to even give it a thought of accepting 30def WITH TURMOIL into a clan, unless jagex keeps having double xp weekends like they are planning but allow altars to be used lol.

I just think that the reason people get 20 def is for their clan and the reason people would get 30 def is for their clan; not for turmoil. I'm not sure how effective the prayer is but if people want to get it they may as well get 10 more defense levels for gear that is exponentially better. 20 def does not have a big advantage in solo pking  (which I think is what pures were made for) but it is very good in clan warfare.

If clans just accepted 30 defense pures with turmoil I don't see why they wouldn't accept anyone with 30 defense.

[`Mike]

anyone who gets defence with intention is considered a main in my eyes, once you hit 5 you should start over as well since you can wear  steel armour

[yamaha]

I was only mentioning 30def(with turmoil) which would be the only real reason to have defence above 28.

I dont think people will start getting 30def just because either clan allows it or the "benefit", im only saying a person that has turmoil and 30def. There wont be many people who can afford turmoil, that are low cb so i guess it wont be enough for a pure clan to even give it a thought of accepting 30def WITH TURMOIL into a clan, unless jagex keeps having double xp weekends like they are planning but allow altars to be used lol.

I just think that the reason people get 20 def is for their clan and the reason people would get 30 def is for their clan; not for turmoil. I'm not sure how effective the prayer is but if people want to get it they may as well get 10 more defense levels for gear that is exponentially better. 20 def does not have a big advantage in solo pking  (which I think is what pures were made for) but it is very good in clan warfare.

If clans just accepted 30 defense pures with turmoil I don't see why they wouldn't accept anyone with 30 defense.

I dont think anyone will get 30defence just because their clan allows it. It will ruin there account for when they are solo pking in my opinion. As for 10defence levels for better gear, only gear that is better would be rune armor which in that case is not better if the other person is ice baraging them. A person could stay 30defence and get the 10attack levels for equipment that is exponentially better and be the same cb as the guy who got 10def lvls instead...

But the whole point was to have turmoil at a LOWER COMBAT LEVEL, 60-87-30 at 85combat instead of 60-87-40 at like 88combat, which the addy guy could just get 10attack levels instead and be 88cb but hit higher and etc then the 40def(besides the fact that it could have veng).

[lntoxicating]

I think it is all about how much damage you can do at the lowest combat possible. Before people would make pure so that they could kill mains, but now it is all pures v. pures and mains v. mains. That is where 45 def came from, it has lower defense so that it can pk against mains and kill them with superior stats. People started getting 20 defense for their clan and for the little bonus it gives, if clans start to accept 30 defense then people will get it to benefit the clan.

I personally do not believe that it should be allowed or contemplated, but people can do whatever they want.

No, people originally started getting 20 defence because hiei the pker had it, lol. Init pures was scarce, if any at all, before hiei. Now people get it for stat / zuriels, etc. Also, Rune pures were around WAY before these new bonuses. Ever heard of a plate pure? Could wear full rune in RSC w/o needing magic (Magic gave cb lvls in rsc, just fyi.) Which was also the definition of a pure.. An account with no magic, and it's hipoints were higher than it's combat. That definition has inevitably changed over time, but the essence of a pure has stayed the same. There were also addy pures in RSC. Look up the name "blick". Although now she's 66 def, she/he were one of the first addy pures to dominate RSC. 60 85 30 with 99 range.

I tell you this, not in direct response to your quote, but to tell everyone in general: Your defence level does not define how pure you are.(to a certain extent.. I wouldnt consider over 40 defence pure, by any means.) Your domination does. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to learn about what pures were in RSC.

[yuu die now]

30 def = fail plus good luck with 60 att at lvl 88 lol im lvl 84 with 75 att and i fight more zerkers then pures 60 att doesnt hit to good on zerkers soo u will no doubt get 70 or 75 then being like 90-92 ish combat come up against good tanks and mains with 70+ defence sooo all in all doesnt seem worth it to me. also 99 str 75 or 70 att will hit just as hard as 85 with 95 prayer and actually hit on there defence soo only bonus to u is ur addy which wont do a great deal oh and a hefty 100 odd mill spent on the prayer.

foe will never accept 30 def and i am fairly sure will never accept anybody with the new prayers regardless of there defence level.

[Scotty|w0rst]

You are not a pure if you are 25+ def

[E O H Shak]

anyone who gets defence with intention is considered a main in my eyes, once you hit 5 you should start over as well since you can wear  steel armour

shit im 6 defence should i start over?

[yamaha]

30 def = fail plus good luck with 60 att at lvl 88 lol im lvl 84 with 75 att and i fight more zerkers then pures 60 att doesnt hit to good on zerkers soo u will no doubt get 70 or 75 then being like 90-92 ish combat come up against good tanks and mains with 70+ defence sooo all in all doesnt seem worth it to me. also 99 str 75 or 70 att will hit just as hard as 85 with 95 prayer and actually hit on there defence soo only bonus to u is ur addy which wont do a great deal oh and a hefty 100 odd mill spent on the prayer.

foe will never accept 30 def and i am fairly sure will never accept anybody with the new prayers regardless of there defence level.

lol wtf are you on? I Clearly stated 85COMBAT, and have you had 60attack with turmoil? I wont be 90-92ISH combat for MONTHS seeing as All my stats would be pked from 85combat. 70+defence mains? Thats where mage comes in unless your trying to say there hides will stop it.

There are plenty of bonuses available to the account other then addy... There is Rune gloves, Adamant defender, Infinity, third age(lol like i can afford to pk in that), Corrupted armors

If rune pkers with stats like 60-90-45 BEFORE turmoil was released have been able to destroy mains, tanks, and etc at 85 or higher combat how do you figure that 30defence with turmoil would not be able to do the same? A zerker ring(i), or a zerker ring period would pretty much make up for the str bonuses that are missing from not having B gloves n zerker helm, or a corrupted plate could.

also 99str with 70attack and i guess what 45def(what u were getting at?) wont be the same cb as 60-85-30 with turmoil, even if the rune pker had only 31prayer thats still 88 combat. Instead of those 15defence levels that you are i guess you are trying to justify getting instead of 30defence, a turmoil pker could just get those 15attack levels and hit higher and better then it would have if it got 45def instead. Not to mention that if you get attack you will keep raising attack or str levels(yes str lvls are eventually gonna raise with 60attack but you have levels to spare because your staying 60attack).

As for the FOE statement they have requirements that say like 24-29defence, new prayers can be done at 28 defence so they POSSIBLY would accept someone with the prayers if they had maybe 99str, range, and mage along with some other none combat skills that would help the clans overall total or skills levels or something of the sort but idk seeing as im not a part of the clan.

anyone who gets defence with intention is considered a main in my eyes, once you hit 5 you should start over as well since you can wear  steel armour

shit im 6 defence should i start over?

yes start over as i said because in his opinion any defence other then 1 is not pure, and that should include people who were whip glitched back in the day, hacked or etc because that is how he defines pure.

[un_m0mento]

watch and drool

[yamaha]

You are not a pure if you are 25+ def

Care to explain how 30def with turmoil is not pure but 25def is? I dont think i've ever seen a 25def pure, and he actually pks in infinity(if thats the reason your trying to claim 25def as pure).

watch and drool

Ive seen that vid before, but he isnt 60attack and 30defence... Which this whole thread is about.

[Cal]

You are not a pure if you are 25+ def

[yamaha]

You are not a pure if you are 25+ def

how is 25def pure?

[Noah]

some of these rules people make up on pures makes no sense... just because a clan accepts 1-29def and not 30def doesnt make 29def pure and 30def not pure...

yamaha, i think someone already mentioned it... didnt bother reading all the replies, but the only way 30def will be accepted into clans is if enough pures get it. once you see the 30def 95pray stat become a trend, then it'll most likely be accepted as "pure" by all these clans.

but i doubt people are gonna stick with 30def and 95pray when 45def is so close and offers them so much more...

[Spittles (Old School)]

anyone who gets defence with intention is considered a main in my eyes, once you hit 5 you should start over as well since you can wear  steel armour

Pkedu is 6, leave him alone@@

[yamaha]

some of these rules people make up on pures makes no sense... just because a clan accepts 1-29def and not 30def doesnt make 29def pure and 30def not pure...

yamaha, i think someone already mentioned it... didnt bother reading all the replies, but the only way 30def will be accepted into clans is if enough pures get it. once you see the 30def 95pray stat become a trend, then it'll most likely be accepted as "pure" by all these clans.

but i doubt people are gonna stick with 30def and 95pray when 45def is so close and offers them so much more...

I personally dont believe enough people will be getting 30def 95prayer mainly for the fact that it costs a lot or takes a lot of time.

But for the 45def part, I dont believe that for a second.. Thats like saying people wont stay 60attack and they will get 70+ attack because that offers them so much more(whip, god swords, items that arent corrupted, possibly newer weapons in the future). A smart person could get those 15attack levels instead of defence levels and be the same cb as if he got defence EXCEPT hit a lot better then the person who got the 45def would(but you also would end up eventually at a combat level where 30def will not be enough, and thats when 45def would be wanted, but if you just stay 60attack to keep your combat lower it wont be anything to worry about for a LONG TIME unless you decide you want to start training your stats up purposely).