Degree vs. No Degree

[Ikz]

Are people who finish school and earn a degree or proceed to earn a doctorate more respected in society? Is someone who drops out of high school due to lack of care to attend/other personal reasons due to be looked down upon?

In my opinion schooling is the first step in life to dedicating yourself to something, and it carries on with you for the rest of your life.

Opinions? My personal opinion is that I will always think more highly of a person with the degree until proven otherwise There have been many dropouts in the world that are successful today, but (not trying to sound bias here because this is personal experience) we see many people that decide school is not for them to live a much lesser degree of life. People I have known to give up on school are now on welfare, some are fathers at the age of 19 working to support a kid or are struggling to get their credits. Once again I am not stating every dropout will live a terrible life, I'm just stating what I've seen.

Discuss

[Tris]

Most mid-high paying jobs require qualifications, qualifications come from education which lead into degrees.  The more qualifications and experience you have the more likely your going to be successful in getting a decent job.  However you may be extraordinary in sports, entertainment or music and may be able to build a life  upon these talents without education, but in my eyes this is rare due to the amount of people who attempt this and crash and burn.

Personally I can't stand people who leech off the government for benefits when they're perfectly able to get out into the world and do something with a cause.  Rather then spending the money they receive on drugs/booze which turns into a never ending cycle which is quite common in today's world.

I believe respect for one should not be judged on one's income or job.  If a person enjoys their profession, state of life and is actually doing something for themselves rather then being involved in illegal activities, then I"m happy with that and will respect them for what they've chosen their life to be.

[Smush]

I'm indifferent because I know people who aren't really meant to go to school and will go on to bigger and better things. Some people just aren't meant to go through the collegiate schooling system, and instead would pursue other trades because there are jobs such as police officers, mechanics, electricians, etc that I respect more than other degrees.

There are so many degrees that I could care less if you have one, cool you have one, but will it get you a good steady paying job, or just a career that you will enjoy?

Really, it all comes down to the person and their character. If you know someone who's too lazy to go to school and too lazy to get a job, then I would look down on them. Or someone who is extremely hard working, does not want to go to college, but instead wants to go into a trade then I respect them highly and would not look down on them.

I take it on a case by case basis.

[Flex]

nowadays its based on experience rather the academia due to recession becasue know comapany is willing to spend money on traning some up when they can find some with more experience its waste of money and years to come its all about saving not spending and it is all about who you know you need to have connections.

[Jonny]

They do

[Lip Job]

Life isn't about money

But some people are idiots and will always have certain prejudices whether they like it or not, nothing anyone can do to stop it. So while I acknowledge people are judged by their education I don't agree with it at all

[gfdgfd]

I think that obviously a degree is going to be an advantage when getting into employment, I don't however think it should be. The only time I feel a degree should be seen as such an advantage is if it's a specialist field.. brain surgery, something like that, idk. But if it's just a regular average joe job, then I think they should value work experience and competence more.

[Octavarium]

There are so few jobs available that getting a degree really isn't too helpful. I'm currently doing a 3 year degree and will probably not get a job related to the course whatsoever.

There really is no correlation between getting an education and getting a good job, it doesn't hurt but in the 3  years you spend doing your degree you could spend it finding a job that may end up paying better anyway. Maybe, if you're competing for a job against somebody with a degree though they'll obviously go for the better qualified.

However, I love learning different things and uni is certainly a great place to learn both academics as well as life lessons. I love learning, however I don't think uni is the best place. I've found that I'd learn a lot more if I did it myself, the only problem is there's nothing to prove that I can do a specific job.

Basicly, if you go to uni you will learn and become "qualified" but you may not end up with a job. Swings in roundabouts I guess.

O yeah, I can't stand uni. The way it's taught aggrivates me. :@

[Marc|Criti]

There are so few jobs available that getting a degree really isn't too helpful. I'm currently doing a 3 year degree and will probably not get a job related to the course whatsoever.

There really is no correlation between getting an education and getting a good job, it doesn't hurt but in the 3  years you spend doing your degree you could spend it finding a job that may end up paying better anyway. Maybe, if you're competing for a job against somebody with a degree though they'll obviously go for the better qualified.

However, I love learning different things and uni is certainly a great place to learn both academics as well as life lessons. I love learning, however I don't think uni is the best place. I've found that I'd learn a lot more if I did it myself, the only problem is there's nothing to prove that I can do a specific job.

Basicly, if you go to uni you will learn and become "qualified" but you may not end up with a job. Swings in roundabouts I guess.

O yeah, I can't stand uni. The way it's taught aggrivates me. :@

Of course, if you have a non useless degree, you will get a better job unless daddy helps. DUH.

You didn't understand the question: are people with a degree considered "superior" to those without?

And imo we can't answer that. Academical success isn't everything

[MikeQ]

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0883617.html

I don't understand how people can blindly make statements about education not mattering in terms of income. We have these new things called statistics which measure the relation between variables. It's not subjective.

That being said, there isn't one answer. Some are perfectly happy with work they can find without a degree, and there is nothing wrong with that. It does, however, bother me to see people dismiss degrees as simply pieces of paper. There is a reason that income increases with education. It's hard. You learn a lot about a specific field of study. I am currently pursuing a degree in mechanical engineering and it insults me when someone says that a degree is just a title.

Academical

I believe the word you are looking for is academic. The irony was too much for me.

[Marc|Criti]

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0883617.html

I don't understand how people can blindly make statements about education not mattering in terms of income. We have these new things called statistics which measure the relation between variables. It's not subjective.

That being said, there isn't one answer. Some are perfectly happy with work they can find without a degree, and there is nothing wrong with that. It does, however, bother me to see people dismiss degrees as simply pieces of paper. There is a reason that income increases with education. It's hard. You learn a lot about a specific field of study. I am currently pursuing a degree in mechanical engineering and it insults me when someone says that a degree is just a title.

Academical

I believe the word you are looking for is academic. The irony was too much for me.

oh sorry I'll ask you to debate in french and quote every mistake you make

[gfdgfd]

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0883617.html

I don't understand how people can blindly make statements about education not mattering in terms of income. We have these new things called statistics which measure the relation between variables. It's not subjective.

That being said, there isn't one answer. Some are perfectly happy with work they can find without a degree, and there is nothing wrong with that. It does, however, bother me to see people dismiss degrees as simply pieces of paper. There is a reason that income increases with education. It's hard. You learn a lot about a specific field of study. I am currently pursuing a degree in mechanical engineering and it insults me when someone says that a degree is just a title.

Academical

I believe the word you are looking for is academic. The irony was too much for me.

oh sorry I'll ask you to debate in french and quote every mistake you make

GOT EMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!

[Lip Job]

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0883617.html

I don't understand how people can blindly make statements about education not mattering in terms of income. We have these new things called statistics which measure the relation between variables. It's not subjective.

That being said, there isn't one answer. Some are perfectly happy with work they can find without a degree, and there is nothing wrong with that. It does, however, bother me to see people dismiss degrees as simply pieces of paper. There is a reason that income increases with education. It's hard. You learn a lot about a specific field of study. I am currently pursuing a degree in mechanical engineering and it insults me when someone says that a degree is just a title.

Academical

I believe the word you are looking for is academic. The irony was too much for me.

oh sorry I'll ask you to debate in french and quote every mistake you make

GOT EMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!

FRENCHIE DOWN, REPEAT, FRENCHIE DOWN!

[Dravid]

Throughout life I have always wondered how people have become rich, and I have come up with the fact that people who are billionaires have usually been lucky and strike the rock at the right moment. They basically know what to do at the right time which basically sends them stardom. Due to this fact I believe that degree's DO allow for people to be smarter and in average people with degrees will have a higher pay then people without. But to become extremely rich in life you need to find the opportunity and approach it at the right time just like:

-Bill Gates (Microsoft, college dropout)

-Mark Zuckerberg (Facebook, college dropout)

-Dhiru Ambani (Reliance Industries (~80B) , not even finished hs )

Some others who didnt have basically any college education include : Coco Chanel, Simon Cowell, Michael Dell, Walt Disney and even Henry Ford. Pretty sure most of you know who these people are with the exception of Dhiru Ambani.

[Sam|Stop Lying]

I agree with Bridd as that a degree helps you get a job.  Lets say that you have a degree and someone else who doesn't have a degree is sniping for the same job position that you are.  9/10 times the person who has the degree is going to get the job, unless like said above that person that doesn't have a degree knows someone "powerful" or the person with a degree has a bad interview, makes himself look like an idiot, or he just isn't cut out for the job. e.g. a skinny emo mess applying for gym teacher position.

[Dezinated]

Non Degree: "Hello, can I take your order?"

Degree: "I would like the blah blah blah..."