k or as i Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 5/0 with vi in ranked so far gonna main this for a while i won 8 games in a row with her including promos to plat shes a good champ to learn
Lennu Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 What am I supposed to do as a jungler when all lanes are losing pretty bad? (2-3lvls behind all lanes and 3+ deaths on all lanes) Never really figured out what to do in those situations. Do I jungle and gank when possible, or just camp a lane 24/7? And should I ever gank lanes when our laner is 3+ levels behind? I feel like we gonna get 1v2ed in those situations.
DeltaPapa Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 I would never gank a lane that has no hope. Get others ahead and hope you/they can carry that lane. Just tell them not to feed excessively and if it means losing a tower to farm easier, do that.
Lennu Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 I would never gank a lane that has no hope. Get others ahead and hope you/they can carry that lane. Just tell them not to feed excessively and if it means losing a tower to farm easier, do that. Last game I spent so much time explaining to our nasus why I won't gank him and he just said I was a shitty bronze jungler when he was vs a riven that was 6/0 and 3 lvls ahead. Just farmed a lot and got dragons by myself but couldn't comeback, our team went like 18-42
k or as i Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Lennu try to learn to counter jungle and tell your team to push lanes since you are not going to be ganking but counter jungling this stops enemy jungler from ganking if you do it right, he will be so behinde in hes jungle or 0-4 in 10 minuits at higher elo's people counter it but i always do it in plat elo and it works 80% of the time and i have been winning much games counter jungling i prevented elise getting any buffs for 15 minuets as udyr the only time it can fuck up is if your stealing buffs and mid or bot has wards in the enemy jungle entrance and your team mate is retarded and did not listen and push lane to tower so enemy mid or bot followed you with enemy jungler and kills you if the lanes are pushed they cant leave lane to kill you since they will be missing many minions to tower which wont be worth after your team gets all 3 first turrets in lane you can group and push together since your lanes should have more cs than enemy laners since they pushed there minions to enemy tower making it hard for enemy laners to cs Edited January 2, 2014 by k or as i
Lennu Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 I would never gank a lane that has no hope. Get others ahead and hope you/they can carry that lane. Just tell them not to feed excessively and if it means losing a tower to farm easier, do that. Last game I spent so much time explaining to our nasus why I won't gank him and he just said I was a shitty bronze jungler when he was vs a riven that was 6/0 and 3 lvls ahead. Just farmed a lot and got dragons by myself but couldn't comeback, our team went like 18-42 its not your problem if your top lane has fed the enemy but that does not mean you should refuse to gank it, if you also have a few kills and your a strong dps jungler like lee sin or vi you should be able to 2v1 the riven even if she is 6-0 if you do not get outplayed that is I played Vi quite much lately but im still pretty hesitant in ganking a lane thats so far behind. I dunno why guess im just scared dieing myself or trading 1for1.
DeltaPapa Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 yh i wouldnt waste your time. Especially if it was a riven. Riven can 2v1 so easy as she is all AoE. If it was like a malphite or a vlad then yeah gank ahead.
k or as i Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Lennu try to learn to counter jungle and tell your team to push lanes since you are not going to be ganking but counter jungling this stops enemy jungler from ganking if you do it right, he will be so behinde in hes jungle or 0-4 in 10 minuits at higher elo's people counter it but i always do it in plat elo and it works 80% of the time and i have been winning much games counter jungling i prevented elise getting any buffs for 15 minuets as udyr the only time it can fuck up is if your stealing buffs and mid or bot has wards in the enemy jungle entrance and your team mate is retarded and did not listen and push lane to tower so enemy mid or bot followed you with enemy jungler and kills you if the lanes are pushed they cant leave lane to kill you since they will be missing many minions to tower which wont be worth after your team gets all 3 first turrets in lane you can group and push together since your lanes should have more cs than enemy laners since they pushed there minions to enemy tower making it hard for enemy laners to cs
Lennu Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Lennu try to learn to counter jungle and tell your team to push lanes since you are not going to be ganking but counter jungling this stops enemy jungler from ganking if you do it right, he will be so behinde in hes jungle or 0-4 in 10 minuits at higher elo's people counter it but i always do it in plat elo and it works 80% of the time and i have been winning much games counter jungling i prevented elise getting any buffs for 15 minuets as udyr the only time it can fuck up is if your stealing buffs and mid or bot has wards in the enemy jungle entrance and your team mate is retarded and did not listen and push lane to tower so enemy mid or bot followed you with enemy jungler and kills you if the lanes are pushed they cant leave lane to kill you since they will be missing many minions to tower which wont be worth after your team gets all 3 first turrets in lane you can group and push together since your lanes should have more cs than enemy laners since they pushed there minions to enemy tower making it hard for enemy laners to cs I counterjungle most games but never asked my team to push just stole buffs and camps whenever I knew the jungler wasnt near. Most games I kill their jungler in his own jungle atleast once, im pretty familiar with counterjungling but learned somethin new from that vid ty Edited January 2, 2014 by Lennu
k or as i Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 counter jungling is not as effective if your team is not pushing lanes you want your team to get objectives and delay enemy csing as much as possible since the enemy jungler will be too far behinde and have to buffs to gank with you will find that when you are playing bot lane when you generally push lane you deny the enemy adc alot of cs but you will get ganked more often since the enemy bot will be crying for help and you ill be in danger since your pushed
Lennu Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) counter jungling is not as effective if your team is not pushing lanes you want your team to get objectives and delay enemy csing as much as possible since the enemy jungler will be too far behinde and have to buffs to gank with you will find that when you are playing bot lane when you generally push lane you deny the enemy adc alot of cs but you will get ganked more often since the enemy bot will be crying for help and you ill be in danger since your pushed yeah I understand the concept fully now pretty much also just lost promos but played really well myself, not really mad or anything since I feel like I learned a lot. My only huge mistakes was dieing at lvl2 when they collapsed as 4 on me at river, and my positioning wasnt that great in teamfights but I almost carried the game even tho we were 20kills behind. Edited January 2, 2014 by Lennu
Insecurities Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 tbh even if nasus is behind and loses tower it gives him time to free farm lol.
k or as i Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 tbh even if nasus is behind and loses tower it gives him time to free farm lol. thats when you go for objectives like pushing mid as a 5 than he cant free farm
Wrecka Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Played for the first time in weeks yesterday.. had soooo much fun playing jungle gragas/kha lol
Dizzy Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Played for the first time in weeks yesterday.. had soooo much fun playing jungle gragas/kha lol khazix ftw
DeltaPapa Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 Surely the best possible way to counter jungle would to not have your lanes pushed, so the jungler has nothing to gank and nothing to farm :s
Fred Posted January 2, 2014 Posted January 2, 2014 h8 ranked play it anyway #yolo junglers carry everygame atm i need to jungle more
Wrecka Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 Ye I carry pretty hard with jungle. Always end up with most gold/2nd to most gold.
k or as i Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 Surely the best possible way to counter jungle would to not have your lanes pushed, so the jungler has nothing to gank and nothing to farm :s but your not going to be ganking your going to be diving under tower since your so far ahead and enemy lanes should always be behinde on cs and getting poked for every cs they try to secure under tower its what the Chinese do
k or as i Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 some questions i would like your opinions on: -Do you feel at a disadvantage spawning on the puple side? -How do you feel playing locked camera? -How do you feel about laning vs a Darius? -What do you think is stopping you from climbing the elo ladder? -What role do you think makes the most impact on your ranked games? -Do you time your buffs and enemy buffs in chat or in your head? -
Farmoil Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 some questions i would like your opinions on: -Do you feel at a disadvantage spawning on the puple side?when playing adc yeah -How do you feel playing locked camera? Retarded -How do you feel about laning vs a Darius? Brings back the level 15 darius terror reign -What do you think is stopping you from climbing the elo ladder? Not getting role I want -What role do you think makes the most impact on your ranked games? Jung early game, mid mid/late, adc lategame -Do you time your buffs and enemy buffs in chat or in your head? Time all drakes/baron, dont time buffs tho
Skidddz Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 some questions i would like your opinions on: -Do you feel at a disadvantage spawning on the puple side? I dont have a preference -How do you feel about laning vs a Darius? Havent seen a darius since level 20 -What do you think is stopping you from climbing the elo ladder? SoloQ is hell -What role do you think makes the most impact on your ranked games? Jungle normally makes or breaks a team -Do you time your buffs and enemy buffs in chat or in your head? Drake/Baron in my head. if im jungling ill time buffs in my head if im top/bot lane don't really pay it much attention, probably should start when I play top for a cheeky steal -
Lennu Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 some questions i would like your opinions on: -Do you feel at a disadvantage spawning on the puple side? Nope -How do you feel playing locked camera? I play on unlocked and i think locked is retarded -How do you feel about laning vs a Darius? Never laned vs darius -What do you think is stopping you from climbing the elo ladder? Combination of bad mechanics and decision making -What role do you think makes the most impact on your ranked games? Jungle -Do you time your buffs and enemy buffs in chat or in your head? Everything in chat
DeltaPapa Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) Do you feel at a disadvantage spawning on the puple side? Not at all. Prefer it if im top. Prefer blue if im bot. -How do you feel playing locked camera? Pointless -How do you feel about laning vs a Darius? Stay alive till you out scale him, wouldn't be worried and i know he falls off late -What do you think is stopping you from climbing the elo ladder? Not playing enough ranked games. -What role do you think makes the most impact on your ranked games? Mid or Top. Jungle helps this. -Do you time your buffs and enemy buffs in chat or in your head? Time Drake and Baron. Buffs i know when they spawn anyway. Their blue is around 7.30, red would be around 8.55. And then it would be around 12 mins for blue. (usually i would have walked down to their blue (being top side) to either reset the map or steal it - if im winning my lane. Edited January 3, 2014 by DeltaPapa
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