handguns legalised in the uk

[i tauntz i]

  On 2/7/2014 at 3:57 AM, Fool said:

 

  On 2/7/2014 at 3:42 AM, i tauntz i said:

 

  On 2/7/2014 at 3:32 AM, Fool said:

If people really want to own a gun in the UK, they'll find a way to make it happen regardless of the rules put in place by the establishment. Any criminal that you assume is unarmed is probably packing some type of heat, whether it be through smuggling or other means, and let's be real these people who are owning guns in the UK as of now most likely won't be able to get them through legal means.

 

That being said I do believe guns should be kept illegal in your country. Do you really need them for self-defense? You'll have a lot more to worry about when the general populace who was too afraid to own a gun prior are now given the freedom to carry one and use it when they deem necessary. Knowing people and how stupid we can be at times, giving us a fatal weapon that could be used pass judgement on another person's actions is just irresponsible.

you obviously have not read any of what has been said before 

 

it is already legal for people to own certain guns in the uk

 

the rules if handguns were legalised would not change so you wouldn't be able to carry in public.. and as far as the rules/law goes to applying for a gun its not like the us where u have a very simply background check then come back a day or so later and pick your gun up it takes weeks if not months of background checks/mental health checks/house visits and a sponsor 

 

also "self defense" wouldn't be a reason to own a gun as we don't have the same amendment thing as the uk it would be purely sporting purposes with extremely strict laws and again like i said the laws would not change so you wouldn't just "use it when necessary"

 

I skimmed through the prior posts, you really can't expect me to look through over 3 pages worth of back and forth. If certain guns are legal now, why the need to legalize handguns?

 

Also, I don't trust people. You could have the strictest laws in place to ensure that nobody gets harmed but it'll happen eventually. Like I said earlier you can't trust all people who own a gun to be responsible. There are things that background checks, and mental health checks can miss.

 

And if the only reason you want to own is a gun is for sport then you really don't need one, there's too much risk involved.

 

so what about bats/knives/cars any other thing you can use as a weapon? just because you don't own a gun doesn't mean you any less likely to go out and kill someone 

 

why is there too much risk involved? i really don't understand this i mean think about it you can kill someone very very easily with almost any weapon like a bat/knife yet guns have this murder persona attached to them there are countries that do very well with guns being freely legal also you can say cars are much riskier than owning a gun but yet you wouldn't think twice about having them banned or not using them 

Edited February 7, 2014 by i tauntz i

[Fool]

  On 2/7/2014 at 4:07 AM, i tauntz i said:

 

  On 2/7/2014 at 3:57 AM, Fool said:

 

  On 2/7/2014 at 3:42 AM, i tauntz i said:

 

  On 2/7/2014 at 3:32 AM, Fool said:

If people really want to own a gun in the UK, they'll find a way to make it happen regardless of the rules put in place by the establishment. Any criminal that you assume is unarmed is probably packing some type of heat, whether it be through smuggling or other means, and let's be real these people who are owning guns in the UK as of now most likely won't be able to get them through legal means.

 

That being said I do believe guns should be kept illegal in your country. Do you really need them for self-defense? You'll have a lot more to worry about when the general populace who was too afraid to own a gun prior are now given the freedom to carry one and use it when they deem necessary. Knowing people and how stupid we can be at times, giving us a fatal weapon that could be used pass judgement on another person's actions is just irresponsible.

you obviously have not read any of what has been said before 

 

it is already legal for people to own certain guns in the uk

 

the rules if handguns were legalised would not change so you wouldn't be able to carry in public.. and as far as the rules/law goes to applying for a gun its not like the us where u have a very simply background check then come back a day or so later and pick your gun up it takes weeks if not months of background checks/mental health checks/house visits and a sponsor 

 

also "self defense" wouldn't be a reason to own a gun as we don't have the same amendment thing as the uk it would be purely sporting purposes with extremely strict laws and again like i said the laws would not change so you wouldn't just "use it when necessary"

 

I skimmed through the prior posts, you really can't expect me to look through over 3 pages worth of back and forth. If certain guns are legal now, why the need to legalize handguns?

 

Also, I don't trust people. You could have the strictest laws in place to ensure that nobody gets harmed but it'll happen eventually. Like I said earlier you can't trust all people who own a gun to be responsible. There are things that background checks, and mental health checks can miss.

 

And if the only reason you want to own is a gun is for sport then you really don't need one, there's too much risk involved.

 

so what about bats/knives/cars any other thing you can use as a weapon? just because you don't own a gun doesn't mean you any less likely to go out and kill someone 

 

Would you not agree that there is a clear difference between a gun and all of the weapons that you just mentioned?

[i tauntz i]

  On 2/7/2014 at 4:11 AM, Fool said:

 

  On 2/7/2014 at 4:07 AM, i tauntz i said:

 

  On 2/7/2014 at 3:57 AM, Fool said:

 

  On 2/7/2014 at 3:42 AM, i tauntz i said:

 

  On 2/7/2014 at 3:32 AM, Fool said:

If people really want to own a gun in the UK, they'll find a way to make it happen regardless of the rules put in place by the establishment. Any criminal that you assume is unarmed is probably packing some type of heat, whether it be through smuggling or other means, and let's be real these people who are owning guns in the UK as of now most likely won't be able to get them through legal means.

 

That being said I do believe guns should be kept illegal in your country. Do you really need them for self-defense? You'll have a lot more to worry about when the general populace who was too afraid to own a gun prior are now given the freedom to carry one and use it when they deem necessary. Knowing people and how stupid we can be at times, giving us a fatal weapon that could be used pass judgement on another person's actions is just irresponsible.

you obviously have not read any of what has been said before 

 

it is already legal for people to own certain guns in the uk

 

the rules if handguns were legalised would not change so you wouldn't be able to carry in public.. and as far as the rules/law goes to applying for a gun its not like the us where u have a very simply background check then come back a day or so later and pick your gun up it takes weeks if not months of background checks/mental health checks/house visits and a sponsor 

 

also "self defense" wouldn't be a reason to own a gun as we don't have the same amendment thing as the uk it would be purely sporting purposes with extremely strict laws and again like i said the laws would not change so you wouldn't just "use it when necessary"

 

I skimmed through the prior posts, you really can't expect me to look through over 3 pages worth of back and forth. If certain guns are legal now, why the need to legalize handguns?

 

Also, I don't trust people. You could have the strictest laws in place to ensure that nobody gets harmed but it'll happen eventually. Like I said earlier you can't trust all people who own a gun to be responsible. There are things that background checks, and mental health checks can miss.

 

And if the only reason you want to own is a gun is for sport then you really don't need one, there's too much risk involved.

 

so what about bats/knives/cars any other thing you can use as a weapon? just because you don't own a gun doesn't mean you any less likely to go out and kill someone 

 

Would you not agree that there is a clear difference between a gun and all of the weapons that you just mentioned?

 

a bat/crowbar/knife/airgun/shotgun/car/dogs they can all kill people and honestly most people that can drive/own dogs are a hell of a lot more likely to injure or kill you with those things that people that legally own a gun my point is why cater to the minority? if one person kills someone with a handgun why should everyone else be named as someone that might kill?

[DeltaPapa]

knifes are a necessity, guns arent.

 

I cant see my self making myself a sandwich by shooting at it.

[Ikz]

  On 1/30/2014 at 5:17 PM, i tauntz i said:

what is this based off? just the idea that guns = crime? so why are they very few people killed with shotguns/rifles? 

 

because its illegal

 

????????

[Fred]

fucking hell tauntz you are the reason we should not have guns

 

you're so fucking thick stfu

[Skidddz]

  On 2/7/2014 at 4:07 AM, i tauntz i said:

so what about bats/knives/cars any other thing you can use as a weapon? just because you don't own a gun doesn't mean you any less likely to go out and kill someone 

 

why is there too much risk involved? i really don't understand this i mean think about it you can kill someone very very easily with almost any weapon like a bat/knife yet guns have this murder persona attached to them there are countries that do very well with guns being freely legal also you can say cars are much riskier than owning a gun but yet you wouldn't think twice about having them banned or not using them 

 

Tauntz think about what you're saying

 

People who own guns are statistically proven to kill more people with a  gun than people who don't own guns

 

Also I don't understand your point about baseball bats and knives? It is illegal to carry a knife or a baseball bat with you as well (without proper reason for carrying), they are deemed as offensive weapons. 

Regardless, if you're suggesting it's easier to kill someone with a knife or bat than a gun you're dreaming. A gun makes it alot more impersonal and actually 'easier' to carry out a killing

[vult]

obviously everything mygwas says is absolutely right!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fred]

always^

Edited February 10, 2014 by My Gwas

[Dizzy]

Being able to legally own a gun makes it easier for someone to injure or kill someone.

If guns are illegal most people that do end up injuring or killing people wouldn't go as far as getting one anyways.

Think about it:

Person A wants to commit some sort of crime rob a gas station or something but doesn't have access to any weaponry as it is illegal and won't get one from the black market, to much of a hassle rethinks it doesn't want to do it.

Person B really wants to rub a gas station and owns a gun cause they are legal and does it because it's easy as hell.

These are just my 2 cents on it, not sure what licenses you need to own to get a gun

[Skidddz]

  On 2/11/2014 at 3:48 AM, Dizzy said:

Being able to legally own a gun makes it easier for someone to injure or kill someone.

If guns are illegal most people that do end up injuring or killing people wouldn't go as far as getting one anyways.

Think about it:

Person A wants to commit some sort of crime rob a gas station or something but doesn't have access to any weaponry as it is illegal and won't get one from the black market, to much of a hassle rethinks it doesn't want to do it.

Person B really wants to rub a gas station and owns a gun cause they are legal and does it because it's easy as hell.

These are just my 2 cents on it, not sure what licenses you need to own to get a gun

 

lold

[Amusing]

in all honesty in my opinion it depends on the surroundings i suppose, if the area was that bad to the point people need guns to feel safe then so be it ... but be strict about it license ect..but otherwise like the others said there probly isnt any need really at this present time anyway.

[Chris]

im for it because guns are fun :)

[Frozen pures]

no because there will ne hold ups for rsgp lol

[Lubo]

It would actually be worse than the us, the amount of depressed junkies here is outstanding... So much easier to kill someone with a gun than a bat.

[Mortuls]

[Spudaaa]

  On 1/30/2014 at 3:34 PM, DeltaPapa said:

Should remain illegal.

 

Why does someone need to carry a handgun with them anyway?

 

Why would you need to take it outside of your dwelling?

 

Just don't seem how legalizing them would change anything

+ you've seen all the shootings in the US, no thank you...there are still too many idiots in England, ye there is rarely shootings as the only people have them are farmers. In the past 5 years or so the only memorable case was Raul Mote but still when i look on my local news (in my case north-west) there are always deaths in Liverpool and Manchester with knives, imagine giving these people guns?? mass murders would happen.

[Kidz On Wiz]

Too many idiots in the UK, crackheads will end up playing Cod outside job center.

[Ollie]

If you're not allowed a knife, you shouldn't be allowed a gun

 

I see no benefit to allowing guns whatsoever

 

And anyone saying that allowing them reduces crime is completely full of shit. Statistics prove that, in the UK, a civilian is more likely to be stabbed if he/she is carrying a knife than if he/she didn't. That's the whole reason why knives were banned without sufficient reason. Would be exactly the same principle with guns

[I Pure Pk I]

Dont think there is a need for em to be atm

[Animal]

  On 2/13/2014 at 7:43 AM, Chris said:

im for it because guns are fun :)

come se london and see if guns are fun looooooooooooooooool

[Wrecka]

  On 1/30/2014 at 3:43 PM, i tauntz i said:

 

  On 1/30/2014 at 3:30 PM, Quee said:

Not really for or against, but the main difference although seemingly obvious is that handguns are far easier to conceal than rifles/shotguns which can cause problems.

true but considering the checks/regulations its not as if everyone would be able to own one unlike the USA also if you really want to its pretty simple to buy one illegally 

 

  On 1/30/2014 at 3:34 PM, DeltaPapa said:

Should remain illegal.

 

Why does someone need to carry a handgun with them anyway?

 

Why would you need to take it outside of your dwelling?

 

Just don't seem how legalizing them would change anything

not for protection it would be for sporting reasons (targets etc) you can own a shotgun for clay pigeon shooting so why not a handgun for targets?  the laws would remain the same i assume so you couldn't have it in public without a reason 

 

its not to change anything protection wise i would say it was more of a sporting/hobby since you can use other guns easily should you be allowed handguns for sports?

 

It's not very easy to get a gun legally. You have to pass background check etc. Criminals can get them illegally by stealing/buying off gun traffickers and there's not really much you can do about that.. IMO if someones going to kill they're going to use something else anyways. 

 

Idk how people are over there/how many crazy ppl are about so I don't have a say in that. For those talking about the school shootings etc it's mainly due to the media hyping the fucking retard shooters up and giving them the fame they want. If someones suicidal as shit and is about to kill himself then sees someone getting the attention for doing that but in a crazy way chances are they're going to want to do it too. I mean pretty fuarked up you see the killers name everywhere but not one single victim, and the shooter is always remembered while none of the victims. Also massive population=there's bound to be more fucked up people etc.

Edited February 25, 2014 by Wrecka

[k or as i]

  On 2/18/2014 at 12:19 AM, Kidz On Wiz said:

Too many idiots in the UK, crackheads will end up playing Cod outside job center.

loool

[A Combo]

they should so i can go to the UK and shoot dripz

[Mortuls]

  On 2/25/2014 at 1:16 AM, k or as i said:

 

  On 2/18/2014 at 12:19 AM, Kidz On Wiz said:

Too many idiots in the UK, crackheads will end up playing Cod outside job center.

loool

 

bwhahah drop shot