i tauntz i Posted February 7, 2014 Author Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) If people really want to own a gun in the UK, they'll find a way to make it happen regardless of the rules put in place by the establishment. Any criminal that you assume is unarmed is probably packing some type of heat, whether it be through smuggling or other means, and let's be real these people who are owning guns in the UK as of now most likely won't be able to get them through legal means. That being said I do believe guns should be kept illegal in your country. Do you really need them for self-defense? You'll have a lot more to worry about when the general populace who was too afraid to own a gun prior are now given the freedom to carry one and use it when they deem necessary. Knowing people and how stupid we can be at times, giving us a fatal weapon that could be used pass judgement on another person's actions is just irresponsible. you obviously have not read any of what has been said before it is already legal for people to own certain guns in the uk the rules if handguns were legalised would not change so you wouldn't be able to carry in public.. and as far as the rules/law goes to applying for a gun its not like the us where u have a very simply background check then come back a day or so later and pick your gun up it takes weeks if not months of background checks/mental health checks/house visits and a sponsor also "self defense" wouldn't be a reason to own a gun as we don't have the same amendment thing as the uk it would be purely sporting purposes with extremely strict laws and again like i said the laws would not change so you wouldn't just "use it when necessary" I skimmed through the prior posts, you really can't expect me to look through over 3 pages worth of back and forth. If certain guns are legal now, why the need to legalize handguns? Also, I don't trust people. You could have the strictest laws in place to ensure that nobody gets harmed but it'll happen eventually. Like I said earlier you can't trust all people who own a gun to be responsible. There are things that background checks, and mental health checks can miss. And if the only reason you want to own is a gun is for sport then you really don't need one, there's too much risk involved. so what about bats/knives/cars any other thing you can use as a weapon? just because you don't own a gun doesn't mean you any less likely to go out and kill someone why is there too much risk involved? i really don't understand this i mean think about it you can kill someone very very easily with almost any weapon like a bat/knife yet guns have this murder persona attached to them there are countries that do very well with guns being freely legal also you can say cars are much riskier than owning a gun but yet you wouldn't think twice about having them banned or not using them Edited February 7, 2014 by i tauntz i
Fool Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 If people really want to own a gun in the UK, they'll find a way to make it happen regardless of the rules put in place by the establishment. Any criminal that you assume is unarmed is probably packing some type of heat, whether it be through smuggling or other means, and let's be real these people who are owning guns in the UK as of now most likely won't be able to get them through legal means. That being said I do believe guns should be kept illegal in your country. Do you really need them for self-defense? You'll have a lot more to worry about when the general populace who was too afraid to own a gun prior are now given the freedom to carry one and use it when they deem necessary. Knowing people and how stupid we can be at times, giving us a fatal weapon that could be used pass judgement on another person's actions is just irresponsible. you obviously have not read any of what has been said before it is already legal for people to own certain guns in the uk the rules if handguns were legalised would not change so you wouldn't be able to carry in public.. and as far as the rules/law goes to applying for a gun its not like the us where u have a very simply background check then come back a day or so later and pick your gun up it takes weeks if not months of background checks/mental health checks/house visits and a sponsor also "self defense" wouldn't be a reason to own a gun as we don't have the same amendment thing as the uk it would be purely sporting purposes with extremely strict laws and again like i said the laws would not change so you wouldn't just "use it when necessary" I skimmed through the prior posts, you really can't expect me to look through over 3 pages worth of back and forth. If certain guns are legal now, why the need to legalize handguns? Also, I don't trust people. You could have the strictest laws in place to ensure that nobody gets harmed but it'll happen eventually. Like I said earlier you can't trust all people who own a gun to be responsible. There are things that background checks, and mental health checks can miss. And if the only reason you want to own is a gun is for sport then you really don't need one, there's too much risk involved. so what about bats/knives/cars any other thing you can use as a weapon? just because you don't own a gun doesn't mean you any less likely to go out and kill someone Would you not agree that there is a clear difference between a gun and all of the weapons that you just mentioned?
i tauntz i Posted February 7, 2014 Author Posted February 7, 2014 If people really want to own a gun in the UK, they'll find a way to make it happen regardless of the rules put in place by the establishment. Any criminal that you assume is unarmed is probably packing some type of heat, whether it be through smuggling or other means, and let's be real these people who are owning guns in the UK as of now most likely won't be able to get them through legal means. That being said I do believe guns should be kept illegal in your country. Do you really need them for self-defense? You'll have a lot more to worry about when the general populace who was too afraid to own a gun prior are now given the freedom to carry one and use it when they deem necessary. Knowing people and how stupid we can be at times, giving us a fatal weapon that could be used pass judgement on another person's actions is just irresponsible. you obviously have not read any of what has been said before it is already legal for people to own certain guns in the uk the rules if handguns were legalised would not change so you wouldn't be able to carry in public.. and as far as the rules/law goes to applying for a gun its not like the us where u have a very simply background check then come back a day or so later and pick your gun up it takes weeks if not months of background checks/mental health checks/house visits and a sponsor also "self defense" wouldn't be a reason to own a gun as we don't have the same amendment thing as the uk it would be purely sporting purposes with extremely strict laws and again like i said the laws would not change so you wouldn't just "use it when necessary" I skimmed through the prior posts, you really can't expect me to look through over 3 pages worth of back and forth. If certain guns are legal now, why the need to legalize handguns? Also, I don't trust people. You could have the strictest laws in place to ensure that nobody gets harmed but it'll happen eventually. Like I said earlier you can't trust all people who own a gun to be responsible. There are things that background checks, and mental health checks can miss. And if the only reason you want to own is a gun is for sport then you really don't need one, there's too much risk involved. so what about bats/knives/cars any other thing you can use as a weapon? just because you don't own a gun doesn't mean you any less likely to go out and kill someone Would you not agree that there is a clear difference between a gun and all of the weapons that you just mentioned? a bat/crowbar/knife/airgun/shotgun/car/dogs they can all kill people and honestly most people that can drive/own dogs are a hell of a lot more likely to injure or kill you with those things that people that legally own a gun my point is why cater to the minority? if one person kills someone with a handgun why should everyone else be named as someone that might kill?
DeltaPapa Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 knifes are a necessity, guns arent. I cant see my self making myself a sandwich by shooting at it.
Ikz Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 what is this based off? just the idea that guns = crime? so why are they very few people killed with shotguns/rifles? because its illegal ????????
Fred Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 fucking hell tauntz you are the reason we should not have guns you're so fucking thick stfu
Skidddz Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 so what about bats/knives/cars any other thing you can use as a weapon? just because you don't own a gun doesn't mean you any less likely to go out and kill someone why is there too much risk involved? i really don't understand this i mean think about it you can kill someone very very easily with almost any weapon like a bat/knife yet guns have this murder persona attached to them there are countries that do very well with guns being freely legal also you can say cars are much riskier than owning a gun but yet you wouldn't think twice about having them banned or not using them Tauntz think about what you're saying People who own guns are statistically proven to kill more people with a gun than people who don't own guns Also I don't understand your point about baseball bats and knives? It is illegal to carry a knife or a baseball bat with you as well (without proper reason for carrying), they are deemed as offensive weapons. Regardless, if you're suggesting it's easier to kill someone with a knife or bat than a gun you're dreaming. A gun makes it alot more impersonal and actually 'easier' to carry out a killing
vult Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 obviously everything mygwas says is absolutely right!!!!!!!!!!!
Fred Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) always^ Edited February 10, 2014 by My Gwas
Dizzy Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Being able to legally own a gun makes it easier for someone to injure or kill someone. If guns are illegal most people that do end up injuring or killing people wouldn't go as far as getting one anyways. Think about it: Person A wants to commit some sort of crime rob a gas station or something but doesn't have access to any weaponry as it is illegal and won't get one from the black market, to much of a hassle rethinks it doesn't want to do it. Person B really wants to rub a gas station and owns a gun cause they are legal and does it because it's easy as hell. These are just my 2 cents on it, not sure what licenses you need to own to get a gun
Skidddz Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 Being able to legally own a gun makes it easier for someone to injure or kill someone. If guns are illegal most people that do end up injuring or killing people wouldn't go as far as getting one anyways. Think about it: Person A wants to commit some sort of crime rob a gas station or something but doesn't have access to any weaponry as it is illegal and won't get one from the black market, to much of a hassle rethinks it doesn't want to do it. Person B really wants to rub a gas station and owns a gun cause they are legal and does it because it's easy as hell. These are just my 2 cents on it, not sure what licenses you need to own to get a gun lold
Amusing Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 in all honesty in my opinion it depends on the surroundings i suppose, if the area was that bad to the point people need guns to feel safe then so be it ... but be strict about it license ect..but otherwise like the others said there probly isnt any need really at this present time anyway.
Frozen pures Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 no because there will ne hold ups for rsgp lol
Lubo Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 It would actually be worse than the us, the amount of depressed junkies here is outstanding... So much easier to kill someone with a gun than a bat.
Spudaaa Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Should remain illegal. Why does someone need to carry a handgun with them anyway? Why would you need to take it outside of your dwelling? Just don't seem how legalizing them would change anything + you've seen all the shootings in the US, no thank you...there are still too many idiots in England, ye there is rarely shootings as the only people have them are farmers. In the past 5 years or so the only memorable case was Raul Mote but still when i look on my local news (in my case north-west) there are always deaths in Liverpool and Manchester with knives, imagine giving these people guns?? mass murders would happen.
Kidz On Wiz Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Too many idiots in the UK, crackheads will end up playing Cod outside job center.
Ollie Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 If you're not allowed a knife, you shouldn't be allowed a gun I see no benefit to allowing guns whatsoever And anyone saying that allowing them reduces crime is completely full of shit. Statistics prove that, in the UK, a civilian is more likely to be stabbed if he/she is carrying a knife than if he/she didn't. That's the whole reason why knives were banned without sufficient reason. Would be exactly the same principle with guns
I Pure Pk I Posted February 23, 2014 Posted February 23, 2014 Dont think there is a need for em to be atm
Animal Posted February 23, 2014 Posted February 23, 2014 im for it because guns are fun :) come se london and see if guns are fun looooooooooooooooool
Wrecka Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) Not really for or against, but the main difference although seemingly obvious is that handguns are far easier to conceal than rifles/shotguns which can cause problems. true but considering the checks/regulations its not as if everyone would be able to own one unlike the USA also if you really want to its pretty simple to buy one illegally Should remain illegal. Why does someone need to carry a handgun with them anyway? Why would you need to take it outside of your dwelling? Just don't seem how legalizing them would change anything not for protection it would be for sporting reasons (targets etc) you can own a shotgun for clay pigeon shooting so why not a handgun for targets? the laws would remain the same i assume so you couldn't have it in public without a reason its not to change anything protection wise i would say it was more of a sporting/hobby since you can use other guns easily should you be allowed handguns for sports? It's not very easy to get a gun legally. You have to pass background check etc. Criminals can get them illegally by stealing/buying off gun traffickers and there's not really much you can do about that.. IMO if someones going to kill they're going to use something else anyways. Idk how people are over there/how many crazy ppl are about so I don't have a say in that. For those talking about the school shootings etc it's mainly due to the media hyping the fucking retard shooters up and giving them the fame they want. If someones suicidal as shit and is about to kill himself then sees someone getting the attention for doing that but in a crazy way chances are they're going to want to do it too. I mean pretty fuarked up you see the killers name everywhere but not one single victim, and the shooter is always remembered while none of the victims. Also massive population=there's bound to be more fucked up people etc. Edited February 25, 2014 by Wrecka
k or as i Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Too many idiots in the UK, crackheads will end up playing Cod outside job center. loool
A Combo Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 they should so i can go to the UK and shoot dripz
Mortuls Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 Too many idiots in the UK, crackheads will end up playing Cod outside job center. loool bwhahah drop shot
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